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Rekka Pop Axton
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:25 am | |
| - Tyriant wrote:
- She probably can't use a semi-colon properly. It took me FOREVER to learn to do that.
No. She knows how to use them. She even admits that I used it right and then tries to call me "pretentious" by assuming that I was using a semi-colon to be "fancy." Which, actually, was the farthest thing from my mind when I originally typed the chapter up. | |
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Tyriant Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:45 am | |
| Then if she can use it she shouldn't be calling out others who use it just because she thinks they sound 'pretentious'. Proper use of a semicolon is something to be marked positively on, simply because it's so rare to see out of the context of a 'Wink emote' | |
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Dream Drops Admin
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:40 am | |
| - Tyriant wrote:
- Then if she can use it she shouldn't be calling out others who use it just because she thinks they sound 'pretentious'. Proper use of a semicolon is something to be marked positively on, simply because it's so rare to see out of the context of a 'Wink emote'
At this point, both Fang and I are rather convinced that she just bitches at things to bitch at them. She seems to stalk the Pokemon fandom and Homestuck, considering after I posted the Ingo and Emmet fic I was doing, I got a lengthy review from her the very next day that kind of hit me pretty hard. I recovered, of course, but was none the less hurt by a lot of the nitpicking she had gone through.
Do I admit there are points I could have done better? Oh, of course. But do I need every aspect of what she doesn't like about it shoved down my throat simply because it's not written the way she thinks it should be. No, no I do not.
This is the review though. Notice she uses the same 'Hello' rant as she did for Fang.- Spoiler:
[Mew had seen it change through so many years but this; this was the worst change of all. Humans fought against humans; Pokemon forced to slaughter not only each other but people as well. ]
Why on earth would it be so much worse for pokemon to kill humans than to kill their own kind? Also, really, like humans fighting against humans is some strange new thing.
You wouldn't capitalize animal or mouse or dragon, so you shouldn't capitalize words like pokemon or pikachu or charizard. The only time you should capitalize it is if you're using it as the pokemon's name, ie, Ash's pikachu is called Pikachu. This is because you only capitalize when it's a proper noun, which are the names of places or things. Similar reasoning should be applied to any other words you're thinking of capitalizing, like telephone or trainer. Or professor.
[The legendary Pokemon was not sure of how to go about protecting the humans that she had called friend for so long. ]
What about protecting the pokemon who seem to be in as bad or worse of a position?
Dialogue is written as "Hello," she said or "Hello!" she said, never "Hello." She said or "Hello." she said or "Hello," She said or "Hello" she said. The only exception to this is if the next sentence doesn't contain a speech verb, in which case it's written as "Hello." She grinned, never "Hello," she grinned or "Hello," She grinned or "Hello." she grinned. Note that something isn't a speech verb just because it's a sound you make with your mouth, so generally stuff like laughed or giggled is in the second category. Furthermore, if you're breaking up two complete sentences it's "Hi," she said. "This is it." not "Hi," she said, "this is it." or "Hi," she said "this is it." And if you're breaking up a sentence in the middle, it's "Hi. This," she said, "is it." And the same punctuation and capitalization applies to thoughts.
...and for some reason she's saving these people by turning them into pokemon, instead of attacking the people after them or teleporting them or something. Even though it seems like a pokemon's lot in life now is worse, so it's not like they'll be safe for long.
If you want to do a people-turned-into-pokemon thing, you really should think a bit more about your explanation. And which legendary to involve - Jirachi stumbling on them while they're wishing for some way to hide seems a lot more reasonable, for example.
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Tyriant Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:18 pm | |
| Bluh, I'd like to see some of her fics. Assuming she has any. Maybe I could spork a few and see how good her writing is. | |
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Rekka Pop Axton
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:30 pm | |
| - Tyriant wrote:
- Bluh, I'd like to see some of her fics. Assuming she has any. Maybe I could spork a few and see how good her writing is.
Oh, she's got quite a bit posted, some for Homestuck, some for Pokemon. You'll just have to look around.
Click here for her Profile.
According to Oki her stuff is rather bland, reusing plot devices and the like. I haven't looked at any of them yet. | |
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Tyriant Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:42 pm | |
| Jeez, from what I can see it's all pretty dull. | |
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Dream Drops Admin
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:45 pm | |
| Okay, okay. I went through one of her fan fictions, on specifically called 'Mewtwos'. I won't go into bitching about the whole only one Mewtwo thing because Fang just got to listen to me bitch about it.
Regardless! This is what I found in her reviews after I read through it. Keep in mind, she goes on a four paragraph explination through a character explaining Mewtwo's background, why he was cloned, and why he couldn't be controlled. She very little goes into any of what she's complaining about here. The comment she left was:
"I give up. No one gets it. Okay, one of the free adult mewtwos teleports in and frees the captive mewtwo. The captive mewtwo uses substitute and then teleports out. The next day, the substitute is found and is assumed to be the dead mewtwo."
So, she's harping at people who don't get her work because she doesn't explain it well enough in her own fic.
But she'll bitch at other people for attempting to make their works a little more obvious and say that no one will understand it.
Me sees a double standard there. | |
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Rekka Pop Axton
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:03 pm | |
| I just read one of her oneshots myself and left a review. I'll leave it here at the bottom for anyone to see as well but she really lacks a lot of talent as well. Reading her work I can see why she didn't comment on our typos or grammatical mistakes - because she's just as bad.- Spoiler:
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- [ I am stronger then normal for my level ] and [ Trained pokemon can battle much more then wild ones. ]
For these sentences you have actually used the wrong then/than. Since it is talking about a difference between something 'than' should have been used. 'Then' is used for a list of things such as when you said "They can battle until they faint then they're healed."
[ His pokemon are all 70+! ]
This is both a little lazy and making use of a game mechanic. Game mechanics like Pokemon levels and the like should typically not be used in such a way that everyone can see on glance what it is. Maybe making use of a Pokedex reading a Pokemon's level would be more realistic. On top of that you should really write out the number instead of using "70+" as it makes you seem lazy.
Shiny Pokemon are also not stronger than normal Pokemon. The only reason they are so coveted is due to their rarity not because of their strength.
Also I noticed that your writing lacks emotional gravity. It sounds kind of bland and boring and it was hard to get into even though it was so short.
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Tyriant Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:18 pm | |
| She uses the same motif for every drabble in pokemon. The whole 'trainers abuse pokemon' and 'battle from the pokemon perspective' type thing. It's really dull. That, and almost ALL her works are drabbles. | |
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Dream Drops Admin
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:21 pm | |
| - Tyriant wrote:
- She uses the same motif for every drabble in pokemon. The whole 'trainers abuse pokemon' and 'battle from the pokemon perspective' type thing. It's really dull. That, and almost ALL her works are drabbles.
We've taken quite a bit of notice to that as well! It's really bull when it comes to her reviewing other peoples work who decide to do something different, just not in a way she wants it to be seen written.
It's not her choice and her acting the way she does in some of her own fics is really, really bull on her part. Worst beta reader ever. | |
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Rekka Pop Axton
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:30 pm | |
| - This March Hare wrote:
- Tyriant wrote:
- She uses the same motif for every drabble in pokemon. The whole 'trainers abuse pokemon' and 'battle from the pokemon perspective' type thing. It's really dull. That, and almost ALL her works are drabbles.
We've taken quite a bit of notice to that as well! It's really bull when it comes to her reviewing other peoples work who decide to do something different, just not in a way she wants it to be seen written.
It's not her choice and her acting the way she does in some of her own fics is really, really bull on her part. Worst beta reader ever. She uses the same cardboard cutout of "angry, abused Pokemon" as well with no outside personality to make them relate-able as well. It's really hard to sit and read her works because of it. | |
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Tyriant Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:37 pm | |
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Dream Drops Admin
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:41 pm | |
| - Tyriant wrote:
- I totally agree! Perhaps she should invest in a Beta reader. Here's the rest of Fang's reviews from her (Click me!)
I could critique your reviews as well if you want Oki~ She needs to give up her beta reader job to someone who would be of higher qualification. XD
And that would be awesome Tyriant! I'd love to see it~. | |
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Angel_the_Claymore Tiny Tina
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:51 pm | |
| Okay, so I'm going to sound like a retard but what happened, guys? Did I miss something? | |
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Dream Drops Admin
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:56 pm | |
| - Angel_the_Claymore wrote:
- Okay, so I'm going to sound like a retard but what happened, guys? Did I miss something?
If you go back a page before here, we've got it all listed out. it's some beta reader/flamer on fan fiction.net who thinks her work is the greatest thing and that obviously gives her the right to go about telling every other Pkmn fan fiction writer that they basically suck.
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Angel_the_Claymore Tiny Tina
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:07 pm | |
| - This March Hare wrote:
- Angel_the_Claymore wrote:
- Okay, so I'm going to sound like a retard but what happened, guys? Did I miss something?
If you go back a page before here, we've got it all listed out. it's some beta reader/flamer on fan fiction.net who thinks her work is the greatest thing and that obviously gives her the right to go about telling every other Pkmn fan fiction writer that they basically suck. Ahh... okay. So I'm guessing we may have another flame war on our hands? | |
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Rekka Pop Axton
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:10 pm | |
| - Angel_the_Claymore wrote:
- This March Hare wrote:
- Angel_the_Claymore wrote:
- Okay, so I'm going to sound like a retard but what happened, guys? Did I miss something?
If you go back a page before here, we've got it all listed out. it's some beta reader/flamer on fan fiction.net who thinks her work is the greatest thing and that obviously gives her the right to go about telling every other Pkmn fan fiction writer that they basically suck. Ahh... okay. So I'm guessing we may have another flame war on our hands? Not here. And why would you assume that? Did you even read any of the previous posts on here? | |
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Dream Drops Admin
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:12 pm | |
| - Angel_the_Claymore wrote:
- This March Hare wrote:
- Angel_the_Claymore wrote:
- Okay, so I'm going to sound like a retard but what happened, guys? Did I miss something?
If you go back a page before here, we've got it all listed out. it's some beta reader/flamer on fan fiction.net who thinks her work is the greatest thing and that obviously gives her the right to go about telling every other Pkmn fan fiction writer that they basically suck. Ahh... okay. So I'm guessing we may have another flame war on our hands? ...Not here. It's more a personal issue because this writer blatantly tears into other peoples fics but complains when another person does the same to her claiming that 'we don't get it' and typically throw a fit.
It's not just us that she'd done this too. So many other users go about reviewing her work in an actual beta reading form because of it and make more sense than she does.
It's a matter of she's calling people out on things when she herself does not write well. | |
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Angel_the_Claymore Tiny Tina
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:12 pm | |
| - Mad Hatter's Passion wrote:
- Angel_the_Claymore wrote:
- This March Hare wrote:
- Angel_the_Claymore wrote:
- Okay, so I'm going to sound like a retard but what happened, guys? Did I miss something?
If you go back a page before here, we've got it all listed out. it's some beta reader/flamer on fan fiction.net who thinks her work is the greatest thing and that obviously gives her the right to go about telling every other Pkmn fan fiction writer that they basically suck. Ahh... okay. So I'm guessing we may have another flame war on our hands? Not here. And why would you assume that? Did you even read any of the previous posts on here? Not before that post. Now I did. Sorry. | |
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Tyriant Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:35 pm | |
| - This March Hare wrote:
- Tyriant wrote:
- I totally agree! Perhaps she should invest in a Beta reader. Here's the rest of Fang's reviews from her (Click me!)
I could critique your reviews as well if you want Oki~ She needs to give up her beta reader job to someone who would be of higher qualification. XD
And that would be awesome Tyriant! I'd love to see it~. Sorry, I was gone for a bit, but here you go Oki! (Click me!) | |
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Rekka Pop Axton
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:13 pm | |
| Oh, my God, guys you have not seen levels of pretentiousness and conceitedness until you see the PMs between Farla and myself.
I'll post them up in a rant later on after I breed this Dewott for Oki in Pokemon. | |
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Tyriant Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:10 pm | |
| - Mad Hatter's Passion wrote:
- Oh, my God, guys you have not seen levels of pretentiousness and conceitedness until you see the PMs between Farla and myself.
I'll post them up in a rant later on after I breed this Dewott for Oki in Pokemon. Good sweet lord. Does that chick have a foot stuck up her ass? I mean really. | |
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Rekka Pop Axton
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:23 pm | |
| - Tyriant wrote:
- Mad Hatter's Passion wrote:
- Oh, my God, guys you have not seen levels of pretentiousness and conceitedness until you see the PMs between Farla and myself.
I'll post them up in a rant later on after I breed this Dewott for Oki in Pokemon. Good sweet lord. Does that chick have a foot stuck up her ass? I mean really. At this point I think she's just so far up on her high horse she thinks she can do no wrong and that any reviews she receives are from 'butthurt' people she had reviewed previously. | |
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Tyriant Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:27 pm | |
| Some people /eye roll There's not much we can do about those people. Other than hope they try to publish a book someday and have it rejected because they literally just lack the talent. | |
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Rekka Pop Axton
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| Subject: Re: Pointless Blabber Again! ver. 2 Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:30 pm | |
| - Tyriant wrote:
- Some people /eye roll There's not much we can do about those people. Other than hope they try to publish a book someday and have it rejected because they literally just lack the talent.
That would honestly be the best form of karma. I only wish that happens and that I am some how, some way, there to witness it. | |
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